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Woobn8r
01-10-2009, 11:51 PM
My wife\'s \'03 R53 seems to not want to shift when left in the cold for a while...(like overnight , or after 8 hours at work).

Once you start the car and let it idle for fifteen minutes it will go into gear...once in gear it is fine.

Has anyone heard of this???

I thought it might just be a one time occurance..but it\'s pretty much every day it\'s really cold. It is not relatd to car washes (as she hasn\'t washed it) nor is it due to snow packed underneath.

Thoughts...:unsure:

Saffar
01-11-2009, 12:48 AM
I have the same thing, but no where near as bad... when the car warms up it goes into 1st and 2nd easy.. if I drive it cold I have a hard time..

My car is a 2008 MC

clark17
01-11-2009, 11:53 AM
My 03 MINI does the same thing. I think it just started two weeks ago, though it\'s only been my first winter with it. Does anyone know if it does any damage when you try to get it out of gear when it\'s all froze up? I apply heavy force to move it.

Thamks

BANZAI
01-11-2009, 01:43 PM
Moisture freezing in the shifter cables meethinks.
There is a Technical Service Bulletin out on it.

Check this out http://www.mini2.com/forum/faults-fixes/23030-cold-cold-cold-frozen-gearbox-problem.html

Paul

BANZAI
01-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Saffar wrote:

I have the same thing, but no where near as bad... when the car warms up it goes into 1st and 2nd easy.. if I drive it cold I have a hard time..

My car is a 2008 MC

My advice .... get this fixed whilst it is under warranty. Looks like you need new gear selector cables (see reply above)

Paul

BANZAI
01-11-2009, 01:52 PM
clark17 wrote:

My 03 MINI does the same thing. I think it just started two weeks ago, though it\'s only been my first winter with it. Does anyone know if it does any damage when you try to get it out of gear when it\'s all froze up? I apply heavy force to move it.

Thamks

Don\'t go too heavy on this or you\'ll snap the selector linkage. If you wait a little, the routing of the selector is over the exhaust, so it\'ll thaw out eventually.

Woobn8r
01-11-2009, 11:43 PM
I\'ll have to make an appointment to get the cables replaced (Thanks for the info).

In the mean time, I had to take MY MINI off the stands and make room in MY GARAGE for HER MINI!

I hope this will help a bit as it is not cold enough yet to freeze the garage totally. But I\'m sure the deep freeze is a comin\' and that\'ll do it fer sure.

clark17
01-12-2009, 02:35 AM
Thanks for the input BANZAI. A nice peice of info to know, I will be visiting my dealership soon.

Fei
01-12-2009, 04:16 AM
I heard that Mini OEM does not have 03 shift cable any more. It has been redesigned so it shifts much smoother. Dealer will have to replace your entire shift box, which is more than $600.

Woobn8r
01-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Fei wrote:

I heard that Mini OEM does not have 03 shift cable any more. It has been redesigned so it shifts much smoother. Dealer will have to replace your entire shift box, which is more than $600.

Really!!!!!!:ohmy: :(
What\'s your source?

I\'ll be pi**ed if that\'s the case....:angry: :angry: :angry:

markertoo
01-12-2009, 02:13 PM
Woobn8r wrote:

Fei wrote:

I heard that Mini OEM does not have 03 shift cable any more. It has been redesigned so it shifts much smoother. Dealer will have to replace your entire shift box, which is more than $600.

Really!!!!!!:ohmy: :(
What\'s your source?

I\'ll be pi**ed if that\'s the case....:angry: :angry: :angry:

Me. :angry:

The last time I took out my transmission, I could not select reverse by the time I had it all back together. It was a little strange to me that all of a sudden the car would not select a gear, so I asked around, and even the dealer. They had no suggestion except that they replace a lot of cables because they stretch.

So, I ordered a cable. It took me a week of ordering and returning the cable(s) before it came down to the fact that I had to replace both side cables, and the updated shifter box. All told, it was over $650.00 plus tax for 2 cables and the shifter box. I haed to buy some other small parts that added up as well.

As it turns out, I had a bent bracket that I replaced this time the transmission was out, and that probably caused the problem.

So, I have learned more, realized that not many people know about working on these cars, and that I now have 2 good used cables and a shifter box that I can sell. If anyone needs, I can even help with the install.

KY3E4KA
01-13-2009, 02:30 AM
Hi guys!

Here is another story:
When I bought my \'04 \"S\" the shifter was so viscous and sticky that could only move it applying really high force. I decided that it\'s because my MINI was sitting at dealer\'s parking lot for a couple of cold months. For the first couple weeks I was driven like this, but then all of a sudden shifter started to move effortless and it happened after really freezing night!!! At first I thought smth went wrong with shifting mechanism - it was moving so effortless that I was afraid to brake smth \'cause I was applying that high force from mere habit. That is very strange to me! Shifting was like moving shovel deeep in a bucket of cement, but after deep freezing - boom! - it was OK.
Since then it shifts OK. Although not as precise as I\'d like to, but I got used to it.

Happy rides! B)

Serge

lilcoopr
01-13-2009, 04:17 AM
Hmm, I\'m not sure what Stella\'s problem is. Hope it\'s not as extreme-sounding as what is described above. It\'s definitely difficult (like as in I need a lot of force) to move the shifter when it\'s cold outside. As soon as the temperature gauge moves up at least to a quarter, it\'s ok. I don\'t remember having this problem last year though because the first time it happened this year, I remember being surprised by it...

kyriian
01-14-2009, 08:05 PM
you have an 06 crissy, if that\'s the case then its probably just a replacement of the cable itself

you can always check if your fluids may need a change

-Herman

MiniBMW
01-14-2009, 08:57 PM
My shifter\'s testicles are frozen… :ohmy:


I drove home last night in only 2nd gear for about 3 kms, it was the only one I could get into until the heat from the exhaust/tranny etc. warmed up my Mini’s balls.... :blink:



And this morning…... the garage didn\'t help much... couldn’t find any gears…… my shifter was stiffer than an 18 year old addicted to Viagra!! :silly:


Quote from MiniDurham to replace my frozen shifter cables $690 plus tax = $780. Parts must be ordered, I think Steve said they were about $350 for parts.

lilcoopr
01-14-2009, 09:34 PM
kyriian wrote:

you have an 06 crissy, if that\'s the case then its probably just a replacement of the cable itself

you can always check if your fluids may need a change

-Herman

Ok Thanks Herman.

I just figured all cars do this in the winter? Is this not the case?

BANZAI
01-14-2009, 09:34 PM
MiniBMW wrote:



Quote from MiniDurham to replace my frozen shifter cables $690 plus tax = $780. Parts must be ordered, I think Steve said they were about $350 for parts.

That is a lot of cash to replace a defective component that has been known about by MINI ever since 2002. They have even issued a TSB and recall in the US for this self same problem.

Who was it that said MINI parts are expensive because the quality is high? Pitty that quality control wasn\'t about when these parts were made!! It\'s also a shame this doesn\'t apply to the BMW/MINI Canada aftersales service compared to the US.

Watch out MINI Canada if this problem happens on my MINI :angry:.

Rant Over

Paul

kyriian
01-14-2009, 11:57 PM
lilcoopr wrote:



Ok Thanks Herman.

I just figured all cars do this in the winter? Is this not the case?

odd, my mini never had any of those problems, and everyone knows i drove the wheels off it, winter or summer

-Herman

kraigar
01-15-2009, 03:02 AM
kyriian wrote:

lilcoopr wrote:



Ok Thanks Herman.

I just figured all cars do this in the winter? Is this not the case?

odd, my mini never had any of those problems, and everyone knows i drove the wheels off it, winter or summer

-Herman

I have owned a number of manual shift vehicles in my life and every one of them got really stiff shifting in sub -15 degree weather. I find my mini to be no different. It doesn\'t feel like anything will snap, more like the shovel in thick mud comparison. The problem always goes away once the car came up to temperature. When I used to live in Ottawa, some times the tires would get very stiff as well, I recall winters were much colder there. I think the thing we are all experiencing is cold we are not used to. CITY tv says this is the coldest we have been in 4 years,

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_30964.aspx

\"Overall, it was the coldest day in the GTA since January 21, 2005, when the mercury only made it to -24C\"

It\'s interesting to learn about the shift cables though. I will have to watch out for that.